Igår i bilen så pratade jag och min man.
(Alltså, vi pratar ju annars också, men just när man sitter i bilen med barnen fastspända där bak så hinner man ju oftast säga mer än en mening innan man måste torka upp spilld juice, trösta någon som ramlat eller lyfta ner någon från diskbänken. De sitter liksom där de sitter.)
I alla fall. Vi pratade om när det blir dags för A att ha sin första doktorand och hur viktigt det är att hitta rätt person. Det handlar ju om någon man ska forska tätt ihop med i fem år, skriva flera artiklar med och så vidare. Rätt person hjälper ens egen karriär, fel person kan stjälpa den.
Jag skulle nog vara mer orolig om det var en kvinna, sa A lite raljerande. Det är större risk att hon ska vara föräldraledig, hon kanske blir borta flera år och då står jag där och kan inte slutföra mina projekt.
Han menade förstås inte att han faktiskt kommer att låta kön vara en faktor när det blir dags att anställa en doktorand.
Men jag tror att det kan vara bra att prata om känslor och tankar av det här slaget. Det är liksom inget konstigt att tänka tanken – det betyder ju bara att man är medveten om hur mönstren ser ut. Men om man inte erkänner att man tänker det, om än bara för en sekund, så blir det mycket svårare att se till att man inte agerar baserat på de tankarna. Är man medveten om problemet så kan man, när man väljer mellan kandidater, uttryckligen fråga sig själv om man låter kön spela in på något sätt när man väljer. Då är risken betydligt mindre att det blir så.
Vi konstaterade också – förstås – att ju mer likartade mönstren för föräldraledighet blir mellan män och kvinnor, desto mindre blir poängen att göra den sortens risköverväganden. Då blir incitamentet att välja bort kvinnor mycket mindre.
Tänk – ett arbetsliv där kvinnor inte kvoterades bort. Kanske, någon gång, att vi kan nå dit?
Jag känner mig oerhört naiv som går runt och tror att vi inte tänker så längre, att kvinnor är mer hemma än män på grund av föräldraledighet och vab. Så visst, jag hoppas också att den där världen snart infinner sig för det är tröttsamt att det ska behöva ses som en nackdel att ha två bröst som barnet skall amma på:)
Men så länge kvinnor och män beter sig så olika på arbetsmarknaden så är det verkligen inte konstigt att tänka tanken. Jag tänker så själv, även om jag så klart slår bort det sen, för att jag inte vill tänka så (så klart!). Jag förstår ändå att företag, och särskilt småföretagare, skulle vilja välja bort kvinnor i fertil ålder. Det är fel, och gör de det på riktigt så blir jag så klart förbannad, men jag förstår logiken. På samma sätt som det finns en lockelse i att välja bort någon som är sjuk mycket och så vidare. Det är vansinnigt dyrt att anställa och ett stort risktagande. Klart man vill minimera riskerna om man kan.
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